I Am A Catholic and I support RH Bill

As a family of Catholic Christian, it’s a norm for us to attend mass every sunday as means of practicing our christian faith. We usually attend the 2nd mass since it’s not that early and not too late. Last sunday was an experience for me, because of the way the mass was conducted.  I felt like I was in a political rally and not on a church attending mass, ok i may be exaggerated on that, but I was really dismayed by the instance that they inserted politics during the mass particularly their stand against RH Bill. Ngayon alam ko na yung naging feeling ni Carlos Celdran nung nagattend sya ng mass sa Manila Cathedral and hinuli sya afterwards. At one point gusto ko na rin sana tumayo at sumigaw ng stop the misinformation aginst RH Bill, but I realized I should control my temper and remain respectful to the occasion. I know it’s the right of the church to lead their flock, to teach them, to preach them, but to force something on them and categorically denounce those who do not agree with their opinion is I think too much.

Isa pa, the priest forcefully related the homily with the RH Bill, eh marami pa sana syang subject nairalate sa gospel na mas maipapaintindi sa mga tao. He kept on saying na RH is a crime bill, that it will violate the sanctity of life. Pero hindi naman idinetalye pano sya naging ganun, puro vague claims at puro generic statements ang kanyang binanggit. Na pag daw naipasa ang RH Bill it will permit abortion, it will permit killing innocent lives, it will permit premarital sex. My question is, have they read the provisions of the bill on its entirety? Cause based on my reading I don’t see any provisions that will allow or legalize abortion. He also kept on comparing  it to the laws in other countries, but hey, this is Philippines we are a sovereign country and we cannot be governed by the laws of other nations. Our own legislators will craft the law and not lawmakers of US, Australia or others. You cannot say that just because abortion is legal in US, it will also be legal here. I cannot see why they are so afraid to make this law be passed, because it seemed that they’re creating an RH bill module on their heads which are not present on the real bill. Drafting of a law cannot be implied, it should all be directly written because implementing it will be so much hard if it will be based on assumptions.

My disappointment climaxed when a pastoral letter was read with the content tagging RH Bill proponents and supporters as “criminals” and “evil”. Dito na ko napa-iling, kasi feeling ko kasali ako sa mga kriminal na binabanggit nya because of my stand for the bill. To collectively tag supporters of the bill as criminals and evil is I think an irresponsible statement. I believe we have the right to choose our own beliefs and it is not their right to impose anything on us and what we should believe in. Yes it is the church moral obligation to teach and lead their flock but to forcefully impose their beliefs or stand on a political issue is a think over board. It brings us back to the days when Jose Rizal fought and rage against the friars who intentionally meddled in the affairs of state dictating what should be the law that will prevail. But were already in the 21st century, even the Pope allowed the use of condoms as a health precaution measure. Are they saying the Pope is also criminal and evil? I understand their stand on the sanctity of life, I am also Pro Life and believer of the bible verse to go and multiply.  Ngunit ang rule ng pagpaparami ay hindi lamang nangangahulugan nang basta basta pagpaparami ng mga supling bagkus ay responsableng pagpaparami. Kung pinapayagan nga ng simbahan ang ilang method ng family planning, bakit napakatindi ng pagtutol nito sa ibang pamamaraan gayung iisa rin naman ang hangarin ng mga ito, ang tamang pagpaplano ng pamilya at pagiwas sa pagbubuntis. Why would they go for the calendar and rhythm methods and assail the use of contraceptives and condoms? Hindi ba pareho lang naman ang layunin ng mga ito, ang makaiwas sa hindi planadong pagbubuntis? In the realms of morality, I think it is but moral to have a little family with good life rather than having huge one with no lives at all. 90+ million Filipinos and a large rate of birth per year is definitely a problem to be solved. Economic gains will surely not reach the poor if the population rises bigger percentage than the rise of the economy. Even if corruption will be lessened , if the birth rate will double or triple, the rise in our economy will be useless, because the distribution of our country’s wealth will still not be proportionate. So I believe this is the right time to start curving solution for this problem and having a good reproductive health and population development program will certainly helpin solving this problem that is facing us now. Imbes na utusan at pilitin ang mga estudyante ng mga catholic school na magrally against RH Bill at iflood ng anti-RH remarks ang facebook account ng mga proponents nito, bakit hindi nila hayaan na pagaralan ng mga ito ang totoong essense ng panukalang batas.

No one will ever win the hearts of the people by mere forceful imposition of what they should stand, so better for them to just teach the people on careful examining of their conscience and whatever decision and stand they come out, reciprocate with respect and acceptance. Anyways religion is not about the building you attend every sunday, or the name of the congregation you’re in, it’s your personal relationship with God whom who are accountable with. I am a catholic and I will always will, but I will retain my stand for the RH Bill.

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  5. point 1: I felt like I was in a political rally and not on a church attending mass — Jesus talked about politics during His time as well. I don’t see anything wrong with it. You cannot separate religion with politics. It’s a good thing that our Church is already relating to the people, doing social deeds as well, because the Church is not just a structure that you can go to, it is about us.

    point 2: but to force something on them and categorically denounce those who do not agree with their opinion is I think too much. — the church is not forcing anyone to do anything, merely explaining the Church’s stand against RH Bill and why it is so, relating the teachings of Jesus Christ to what is happening in our society now

    point 3: eh marami pa sana syang subject nairalate sa gospel na mas maipapaintindi sa mga tao — edi ikaw na lang mag-pari, mas madami ka pa pala alam! haha joke lang.

    point 4: I don’t see any provisions that will allow or legalize abortion — no, it was not stated, but it’s implied. like most of our laws now, madaming implications, madaming loopholes. and legalizing this would be a loophole towards legalizing abortion in the future.

    point 5: He also kept on comparing it to the laws in other countries, but hey, this is Philippines we are a sovereign country and we cannot be governed by the laws of other nations — are you sure about that? don’t you know that most problems that we have now have been encountered by the 1st world countries already? why do you think this is being pushed now? dahil wala ng new market for contraceptives sa western countries, samantalang sa Asia, madami pa. alam mo bang may 1-child policy sa China noon pa? and now they’re having problems dahil wala ng batang generation to work for their country. and we should learn from history and from other people. what were you thinking when you wrote this sentence? that a single nation, or man, could live on his own? HELLO!

    point 6: Our own legislators will craft the law and not lawmakers of US, Australia or others — this is funny. im thinking either you’re not from the Philippines, or you’re not watching the news. hindi ka pa ba nakakarinig ng “puppet” na term? that most of our previous presidents were puppets of American presidents?

    point 7: Dito na ko napa-iling, kasi feeling ko kasali ako sa mga kriminal na binabanggit nya because of my stand for the bill. — baka it’s your conscience, speaking to you. di ka naman tatamaan kung wala kang ginagawang masama.

    point 8: even the Pope allowed the use of condoms as a health precaution measure. Are they saying the Pope is also criminal and evil? — surely you haven’t been reading the news. the Pope was misquoted, man.

    point 9: Why would they go for the calendar and rhythm methods and assail the use of contraceptives and condoms? — because it’s not the answer. You wanna know the true meaning of responsible in the sex world? it’s being able to “abstain”. abstain in committing sin, abstain sa tukso na makipag-sex na hindi ka pa handa. ano ba gusto mo mangyari? na ma-encourage even ang grade 5 student na makipag-sex kahit kanino dahil may condom naman? na sige makipag-sex ka, pero pag nabuntis, ipalaglag na lang, tutal hindi naman tayo makukulong at may mga clinics naman para maligtas ang buhay mo, dahil sa RH Bill? yan ba ang values na gusto mong matutunan ng anak mo? don’t you know na ang mga pills ngayon ay cancerous? gusto mo magkasakit kaming mga babae? baka nabasa mo lang yung bill, pero hindi mo naintindihan pati ang implications nito.

    masyadong malaki ang sinasakop ng RH bill. may health care at medical, may education, may tungkol population, may kung anu-ano pa. eh kung ibreak-down mo ng mabuti ang RH bill, makikita mo masosolusyonan yun isa isa SA IBANG PARAAN. kung sa kalusugan ng ina at anak habang nagbubuntis, kailangan tutukan, hindi kailangan ipalaglag. kung sa edukasyon tungkol sa sexuality, maaaring ang mga magulang ang turuan kung pano tuturuan ang kanilang mga anak. maraming ibang solusyon. overpopulated nga ba tayo? hindi naman eh. hindi lang maayos ang distribution ng pagkain. kulang ba budget natin para alagaan ang mga inang nagbubuntis? sigurado ako pag naayos ang problema natin sa corruption, sobra sobra pa ang budget natin. ang ginawa ng RH bill, pinagsama-sama ang lahat ng problema at gumawa ng maling solusyon na nakapackage-deal. take it all or leave it. eh may ibang tamang paraan para solusyonan ang mga problemang ito. hindi dapat tayo naghahanap ng “quick fix” sa mga problema lalo na kung alam naman nating may tamang paraan.

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    • nice point of discussion here. ok will answer it point by point also.
      point 1: I felt like I was in a political rally and not on a church attending mass — Jesus talked about politics during His time as well. I don’t see anything wrong with it. You cannot separate religion with politics. It’s a good thing that our Church is already relating to the people, doing social deeds as well, because the Church is not just a structure that you can go to, it is about us.
      – Jesus talked about politics in his time, but is it done inside the church? Yes I believe it is church obligation to help in people’s social needs but there is always borderline when it comes to state policies.

      point 2: but to force something on them and categorically denounce those who do not agree with their opinion is I think too much. — the church is not forcing anyone to do anything, merely explaining the Church’s stand against RH Bill and why it is so, relating the teachings of Jesus Christ to what is happening in our society now
      – i don’t think is a mere explanation, and i don’t think also if you have experience the same thing but talking to people what they should do and how should they threat the issue is no less that forcing the people into they’re stand. in fact there are catholic school students who already said that they were oblige by the school officials to attend rallies to show off numbers.

      point 3: eh marami pa sana syang subject nairalate sa gospel na mas maipapaintindi sa mga tao — edi ikaw na lang mag-pari, mas madami ka pa pala alam! haha joke lang..
      -hehehe, my point lang is, its a mass, and you cannot expect that all people there are sharing the same sentiments as the priest on that social issue, so for the sake of fairness dpat neutral ang homily about the liturgy and not only biased on his belief.

      point 4: I don’t see any provisions that will allow or legalize abortion — no, it was not stated, but it’s implied. like most of our laws now, madaming implications, madaming loopholes. and legalizing this would be a loophole towards legalizing abortion in the future.
      – can we have a law that is implied? how can you implement it if it is not clearly stated. pede ka bang hulihin sa isang crimen na hindi naman nakalagay sa batas ngunit dahil lang sa maaring implication nito? pano maiinforce ang isang batas na implied at hindi directly stated? its like putting words into the mouth of other person eh. law is not about assumptions is about clear manifestations. pasensya lumaki po kasi kong optimistic na tao eh, kaya i always believe in positivity of things, and only pessimists lang i think yung magiisip na tutungo ito sa legalization ng abortion.

      point 5: He also kept on comparing it to the laws in other countries, but hey, this is Philippines we are a sovereign country and we cannot be governed by the laws of other nations — are you sure about that? don’t you know that most problems that we have now have been encountered by the 1st world countries already? why do you think this is being pushed now? dahil wala ng new market for contraceptives sa western countries, samantalang sa Asia, madami pa. alam mo bang may 1-child policy sa China noon pa? and now they’re having problems dahil wala ng batang generation to work for their country. and we should learn from history and from other people. what were you thinking when you wrote this sentence? that a single nation, or man, could live on his own? HELLO!
      – why is there such a sovereign thing pa kung wala naman pala talgang soveriegn ang isang bansa. again the pessimist will say we cant when infact we can.

      point 6: Our own legislators will craft the law and not lawmakers of US, Australia or others — this is funny. im thinking either you’re not from the Philippines, or you’re not watching the news. hindi ka pa ba nakakarinig ng “puppet” na term? that most of our previous presidents were puppets of American presidents?
      – ok i may sound funny to you, but i can say i am always updated with the news either on TV, internet, radio and social media.it is my advocacy to inspire pinoys to be socially responsible that’s why i always read news with social relevance and awareness. if im not into news why would i bother to write on this subject? hehehe. im just saying, it is still up to our lawmakers. do you think when they created the bill foreign lawmakers are here to deliberate? and look at the proponents of the bill, mostly are from the partylist groups who are militant about foreign intervention, right? hehehe

      point 7: Dito na ko napa-iling, kasi feeling ko kasali ako sa mga kriminal na binabanggit nya because of my stand for the bill. — baka it’s your conscience, speaking to you. di ka naman tatamaan kung wala kang ginagawang masama.
      – hehehe, i didnt say i felt as a criminal? i said i felt i belong to those they tagged as criminals. that’s a different thing. and i also conferred this to my priest friend and he also said its not the way it should be conducted. :-)

      point 8: even the Pope allowed the use of condoms as a health precaution measure. Are they saying the Pope is also criminal and evil? — surely you haven’t been reading the news. the Pope was misquoted, man.
      – sorry but i read the article, he really allowed use of it as a health precautionary measure. what’s to be misquoted on that?

      point 9: Why would they go for the calendar and rhythm methods and assail the use of contraceptives and condoms? — because it’s not the answer. You wanna know the true meaning of responsible in the sex world? it’s being able to “abstain”. abstain in committing sin, abstain sa tukso na makipag-sex na hindi ka pa handa. ano ba gusto mo mangyari? na ma-encourage even ang grade 5 student na makipag-sex kahit kanino dahil may condom naman? na sige makipag-sex ka, pero pag nabuntis, ipalaglag na lang, tutal hindi naman tayo makukulong at may mga clinics naman para maligtas ang buhay mo, dahil sa RH Bill? yan ba ang values na gusto mong matutunan ng anak mo? don’t you know na ang mga pills ngayon ay cancerous? gusto mo magkasakit kaming mga babae? baka nabasa mo lang yung bill, pero hindi mo naintindihan pati ang implications nito.
      – my point on this statement is very simple, it’s the same thing, the purpose is to avoid pregnancy. and i believe you banked again on the assumption that if condoms and contraceptive will be available in the health centers, everyone will rush to get those and get sex sex sex. ganun na ba magisip ang pinoy? ibig sabihin hindi ka nagtitiwala sa mentalidad ng mga pilipino? pati sa kabataan naten. i always look at the positive side kasi, and i believe this will cause the youth to be more cautions kasi alam na nila ung mga consequences, kesa wala silang alam lalo silang mageexperiment. para lang yan kwento nung gamo gamo diba? dahil hindi alam nung batang gamo gamo na nakakasunog yung apoy, nagpunta pa rin sya sa apoy. same with sex education, the more that they dont have proper technical/scientific knowledge of that, they will experiment on themselves to know. tsaka do you think pagpumunta sa health center and isang 8 yr old at sabihin penge po ng pills or condom, bibigyan sya? i dont think so. about the cancerous pills naman, FAD already said (ayan ha, nagbabasa ko ng news) that they will and forever will not approve abortificient pills, meaning no pills will be given to the health centers if its abortificient. i care for you women kasi may lola ako, may nanay ako, may mga tita ako, at para sa magiging asawa ko, at maraming babaeng mahihirap na kelangan ng abot kayang access sa health care. tsaka this bill will not force naman the citizen to use pills eh, they will just give the people an option on what family planning methods they are comfortable with.

      after i read all your point, i conclude on one thing and that is you’re anti – abortion. pareho lang po tayo, i also abhor abortion and will never ever be in favor of that. but as i have read in the bill and the pronouncements of its proponents, the anti abortion law will still prevail and will still be enforced. and for that i’m ok with the RH Bill.

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  6. RH Bill, the proponents claim, does not mention abortion. Sec 3.1 of that bill says: “FREEDOM OF CHOICE, WHICH IS CENTRAL TO THE EXERCISE OF RIGHTS, MUST BE FULLY GUARANTEED BY THE STATE.” Now, if the Bill is passed, one may claim that abortion is a choice – the debate will now start. Friend, the proponents thought they can get away with word playing. They did not write outright the word abortion, but if you read and comprehend carefully – it sums up to abortion.

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    • i beg to disagree, until there is anti abortion law in the country i cannot agree that RH Bill will be used to push thru with that. And the choice that stated here pertains to the choice in using the available family planning methods and not choice to abort the child.

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  7. everyone will rush to get those and get sex sex sex. ganun na ba magisip ang pinoy? ibig sabihin hindi ka nagtitiwala sa mentalidad ng mga pilipino? pati sa kabataan naten. — OH GOOD Lord, you do not know what you’re saying. 80% of youth nowadays have tried sex for all the wrong reasons. they thought it’s love, or nalasing lang, or people in the provinces na walang libangan, nagse-sex lang sila para may magawa sila sa gabi. this is a fact. and actually, based on the studies of a Harvard Director for AIDS Prevention, Edward Green, use of condoms will not lower the rate of HIV/AIDS in a country, but on the contrary, will increase it. Availability of condoms (free or over the counter) will make people take wilder sexual risks, thus worsening the spread of the disease. He actually showed that fidelity and abstinence are the best solution to the AIDS epidemic. that’s a fact, sir, and i’m sorry to burst your optimistic bubble.

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    • everyone will rush to get those and get sex sex sex. ganun na ba magisip ang pinoy? ibig sabihin hindi ka nagtitiwala sa mentalidad ng mga pilipino? pati sa kabataan naten. — OH GOOD Lord, you do not know what you’re saying. 80% of youth nowadays have tried sex for all the wrong reasons. they thought it’s love, or nalasing lang, or people in the provinces na walang libangan, nagse-sex lang sila para may magawa sila sa gabi. this is a fact. and actually, based on the studies of a Harvard Director for AIDS Prevention, Edward Green, use of condoms will not lower the rate of HIV/AIDS in a country, but on the contrary, will increase it. Availability of condoms (free or over the counter) will make people take wilder sexual risks, thus worsening the spread of the disease. He actually showed that fidelity and abstinence are the best solution to the AIDS epidemic. that’s a fact, sir, and i’m sorry to burst your optimistic bubble.
      – sorry, with due respect, my optimism is still high. the one you have stated that youths nowadays have left and right tried sexual acts, because they are not properly informed. they dont know the consequences, that’s why they want to know it themselves. like i said with the sample of the gamugamu and fire. kung naipaliwanag lang sana sa kanyan ng nanay na gamu gamu na masasaktan sya sa paglapit sa apoy hindi na sana sya nasaktan. same with sex, given they haveeducated on that thing the experimentations will be lessen.Don’t you know also the study conducted by WHO, that use of condoms have an impact in lessening HIV infections? On the statement re: availability of condoms (free over the counter), isn’t available over the counter now? diba ang bilis naman talga nakakabili ngayon sa mga drugstores at groceries kahit wala pa yan RH bill?

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  8. and also, if I may say so, i think you haven’t heard of “condom failures” before. for me, i just haven’t heard of it, i have experienced it. we really weren’t expecting for a brother. my mother is taking her regular pills and they used condoms as well. pero what could’ve been 2 became 5. sana kung mag-propose ng bill, yung maayos na, yung sure solutions, not just available solutions that would fail, MOST OF THE TIME.

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    • and also, if I may say so, i think you haven’t heard of “condom failures” before. for me, i just haven’t heard of it, i have experienced it. we really weren’t expecting for a brother. my mother is taking her regular pills and they used condoms as well. pero what could’ve been 2 became 5. sana kung mag-propose ng bill, yung maayos na, yung sure solutions, not just available solutions that would fail, MOST OF THE TIME.
      – i thought you’ve experienced it yourself. hehehe. joke lang po. maybe your parents have used condoms, but maybe in some times they engaged into lovemaking they didnt used it. and there an offspring was brought out of the earth.

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  9. he more that they dont have proper technical/scientific knowledge of that, they will experiment on themselves to know. — i agree on this. i agree that education will really lessen pre-marital sex, abortion, unfathered babies, single mothers, poverty. but not just any education but “substantial education”. in a class, hindi lahat ng estudyante, pare-pareho ang approach mo sa pagtuturo sa kanila. kasi iba iba yan ng personality. in the bill, it will be required that all youth, starting sa grade 5, ay tuturuan ng sex education. now, my brother is incoming first year hs. and all he talks about and watch and do all day are computers, animals, dinosaurs, psp. all day. i know so because im with him mula pagpasok ng school until makauwi. sinasabi niya na yung classmates niya, nanonood daw ng redtube, over dinner one night. sabi ko masama yon. i was the one who taught him about it. i said Jesus won’t be happy if you watch that. sa tingin ko, hindi pa siya handa sa mga ganitong klaseng usapin, kasi parang hindi pa niya naiintindihan. that is just one case for you. im sure madami ding bata jan na hindi pa handa sa usaping sex at grade 5. sa RH Bill, tatanggalin nila ang karapatan ng mga magulang para gawin ito sa kanilang mga anak. yan ba ang gusto mo? case to case basis yan. for the good of all dapat, not for the good of some.

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    • isn’t it good na after nila maturuan sa school eh ikukwento sa bahay at mapaguusapan ng family, instead of wala man lang background? kasi most of the kids are not open to discussing this topic in home. they will not talk about sex because they are afraid the parents will not answer them. and also, how about those kids na may magulang na hindi rin nakapagaral? how can they explain to their children the technicalities of sex? buti siguro kayo im assuming you have a comfortable family, well educated, kaya nyo magabayan ang mga siblings nyo about this topic. eh pano yung mga bata na ang mga magulang ay OFWs or mga hindi rin nakapagaral at walang proper knowledge sa sex education? diba mas unfair yun sa mga batang katulad nila kung hindi man lang sila mabibigyan ng education about the issue?

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  10. one more thing. kapag naipasa ang RH Bill, ako na Katoliko ay hindi ko masasabi ng malaya ang mga nais kong sabihin sa mga friends, relatives ko ang mga kalokohang maaaring mangyaring epekto ng RH Bill, kasi makukulong ako. yan ba ang gusto niyo? asan na ang freedom of choice and freedom of expression doon? may masasagasaang ibang karapatan. bakit kailangan ko pang makulong kung sakali? hindi ka ba nagtataka? bago tayo maligo sa pool na yan ng RH Bill, mag-isip muna tayo ulit, suriin muna natin ang epekto ng bawat seksyon ng Bill na ito. magtanong muna tayo, at tanungin ulit natin ang ating paniniwala. masyado naman atang malansang amoy ang “pagpapakulong sa sinumang magsasabi ng negatibo tungkol sa RH Bill”. hindi mo ba naaamoy?

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    • ne more thing. kapag naipasa ang RH Bill, ako na Katoliko ay hindi ko masasabi ng malaya ang mga nais kong sabihin sa mga friends, relatives ko ang mga kalokohang maaaring mangyaring epekto ng RH Bill, kasi makukulong ako. yan ba ang gusto niyo? asan na ang freedom of choice and freedom of expression doon? may masasagasaang ibang karapatan. bakit kailangan ko pang makulong kung sakali? hindi ka ba nagtataka? bago tayo maligo sa pool na yan ng RH Bill, mag-isip muna tayo ulit, suriin muna natin ang epekto ng bawat seksyon ng Bill na ito. magtanong muna tayo, at tanungin ulit natin ang ating paniniwala. masyado naman atang malansang amoy ang “pagpapakulong sa sinumang magsasabi ng negatibo tungkol sa RH Bill”. hindi mo ba naaamoy?
      – sorry ma’am but i cannot see anything on the bill that says, anyone who will talk against RH will be jailed. i’ve read the bill on its entirety but i havent seen that. the bill was proposed because we need a law for the appropriation of funds for the healthcare benefits and i cannot see any incriminating thing. the bill aimed to give the family options on their family planning method and to give POOR families the access to healthcare benefits which they cannot afford now.

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  12. I was glad to see this web page. I found this through Google Images, I searched “Anti RH Bill” pero nasali ang photo saying that you support RH Bill even if you are a Catholic. We do share the same stand. But I cannot share my own side with my parents and other relatives, especially that may pinsan ako na priest. Hindi lang nila alam na I am Pro RH Bill. I felt the need of passing the RH Bill. Kailangan na.

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    • thanks for dropping by. :-) and for sharing your stand. I think it just takes good conversation for you to voice out to your family what your stand is. kame sa bahay yung nanay ko, she’s still undecided pero ako nasasabi ko sa kanila na I am for the passing of the bill. sigurop naman hindi ka nila itatakwil just because of your stand, they are you’re family still and they will respect your stand once you have made it known to them. make your voice count, we need pinoys who are feerless in their conviction for something that is helpful to our country. anyways thanks again, hope you can read some of my post pa and future posts. :-)

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  13. di maalis sa isip ko yung episode ng WORD OF THE LOURD NI LOURD DE VEYRA pati yung sa TAYUAN MO AT PANINDIGAN .

    the church itself cannot defend their stand on why they’re opposing the bill kaya paano nila masasabing “imoral” yun … i am also a catholic … but the point is ANO BA ANG MAS IMORAL…. ang PIGILAN ANG PAGBUO o NAG BUMUO NG DI MO NAMAN KAYANG BUHAYIN AT LATER ON MAGIGING MISERABLE DIN ANG BUHAY ???

    SABI NG BISHOP NA ININTERVIEW NILA LOURD….

    nasa cannon law ang pagiging responsableng magulang…. at “MAG-ANAK LAMANG DAW NG KAYA MONG BUHAYIN AT PAG-ARALIN” the law speaks for itself… it doesn’t really mean that if we pass the bill we are all considered as IMMORAL . THE BILL ONLY WANTS TO TEACH THE PARENTS TO BE RESPONSIBLE ONES.

    and why does the church makes it to personal for us Catholics at may isang pari pang nagsabi sa isang misa na “IF PRO RH KAYO MABUTING LUMABAS NA KAYO NG SIMBAHAN NA ITO BECAUSE ITS USELESS”

    di ba nila alam ang article sa constitution that separates the church and the state????

    the church really is unreasonable parang ung RIZAL LAW din yan pero ano nangyari napasa kasi WALANG TAMANG STAND ANG SIMBAHAN ….

    anong sabi ng simbahan noon … pag napasa ang rizal law that states na ituro ang literary works ni rizal… magsasara daw ang lahat ng catholic universities at schools to name few: UST, SSC-R etc. pero nung napasa??? these schools still stand.

    di dapat gawing RELIGIOUS ISSUE NG SIMBAHAN ANG MGA SOCIAL ISSUES NA DAPAT SOLUSYUNAN .

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    • woaahh, thanks for taking time to read my humble writings. lalo akong naniniwala na buhay ang pagasa ng pagbabago, kasi marami nang pilipino ang nagiisip at nagsasaliksik para sa mga isyung panlipunan. and thank you din may natutunan ako from you, i didn’t know the rizal law. i will research on that to know about it. thanks. :-) tama ka, church is very bias, kasi mismong mga ibang taga simbahan who differs in their opinion ay sinisiraan din nila. last sunday sa Harapan sa ABS-CBN, one proRH bill tackles the wordings from St. Gregory the Great (which incidentally is the patron saint of our town), sabi nung antiRH, infallible daw si St. Gregory at yung kay St. Francis daw ang sinusunod. what the heck, how can there be such study which favors the RH bill from St. Gregory at dahil hindi tugma sa stand ngayon ng simbahan ay sasabihin n lamang na fallible pala tong saint na to at ang daapt sundin ay yung ‘infallible’ daw na tumutugma sa kanilang stand. this clearly shows that catholic views are sterotypes, if it’s not in congruence with their stand sasabihin na fallible at kung congruent naman sasabhin na infallible. how can simple catholics be guided if there are inconsistencies within their ranks.

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  14. :D no worries. ginawa ko lang ang part ko as a citizen. pinanindigan ko lang ang stand ko kasi alam kong nasa tama ako at i know ganun din ang view mo. Kaya i support your view as well.

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    lahat naman ng kumokontra sa simbahan ganun yung nagiging view sa kanila eh .

    tulad na lang ni Galileo Galilei.. in-undergone sya sa inquisition kasi prinopose nya na sun ang center ng solar system …na hindi pinaniniwalaan ng simbahan . and later on napatunayan nila na tama si Galileo.

    hahaha kaya no wonder most of the Catholic countries hindi masyadong maunlad. Kasi masyadong tied ang mga tao sa religion nila…

    kaya medyo hanga din ako kay carlos celdran … tama din naman sya ehh. tinutulad pa din ng simbahan ang government as part nila lalo na ngayon na si noynoy ang president. at alam naman ng lahat na “religious” talaga yung mom nya. kaya malakas ang loob ng simbahan na magbanta ng civil disobedience.

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    • yup, i agree with you. faith should be personal conviction naman eh, it should not dwell on matters that is concerning government and policies. i dont believe this civil disobedience threat will prosper. and i will earnestly pray na hindi un magprosper and that RH bill will be passed. sayang nga wala pang nagtatanong nito sa mga anti rh eh, what if pro-RH people prayed simultaneously and the prayer was heard by God in the form of passing of the bill, could they invoke naman na hindi sa ibang God tayo nagpray, kasi dininig tayo? and can they invoke kaya na it’s not God who answered that prayer. hahaha

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  15. I find MAJORITY of the CATHOLICS na ANTI RH na mga HIPOCRITS… pAG ARALAN nila ang sitwasyon ng bansa, katayuan ng paligid at BATAS, ang mga kumag kasi binabase lahat sa bibliya eh hindi naman intended sa kasalukuyan ang biblya. kaya nga TECHNICALLY it is the OLDEST HISTORY BOOK. yan ang turo sa amin sa seminaryo at hindi kailangan dibdibin ang bibliya, yan ang turo ng mga pari sa amin na ngayon ay tutol sa RH BILL.

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